並前往https://www.camelschool.com/podcast/ep-30-%E5%A4%96%E5%95%86%E8%97%A5%E5%BB%A0%E7%B8%BD%E7%B6%93%E7%90%86%E7%9A%84%E8%81%B7%E6%B6%AF%E7%B6%93%E9%A9%97%E8%AB%87/
